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TOPIC: Zelator? Zohar?
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Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Ok, in this intro thingy that I found on RSPAA, it has the following icons:
Before the Beginning
Gish
Siamese Dream
Pisces Iscariot
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
The Aeroplane Flies High
Adore
Machina
Machina II

And then, the final icon flashes the word "Zelator."
After this word flashes, it says "After the End."
After "After the End" flashes, the word "Zohar" pops up below the bottom icon.

Now, pardon my ignorance, but
that's two Z's
And the only album announced to be after Machina II starts with a Z. (Could be latin or something...) So...yeah heh...
I was just saying, don't give up on Billy Corgan's "Da Vinci Code."

Here is a link:
ftp.rspaa.niluje.net/sp1/Miscellaneous/w...kins.com/intro8b.swf
And there you have it!

CONSPIRACY!
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Intresting.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar

The Zohar (Hebrew ??? "Splendor, radiance" is widely considered the most important work of Kabbalah.
The Tree of life is also on that page and looks similar to that diagram.
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Hmmm... I looked Zelator up and didn't see anything on wiki.
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
the whole thing revolves around a magical order, Argenteum Astrum (look it up). The whole purpose of the fraternity can be summed up in one phrase: I Am One. that's what they're after.

i know nobody asked for this... but whatever:

(loose translations. took latin for 3 years and still had to look alot of this up)
portae lucis - to carry shining
azoth - mercury. (consider - source of all metals)
ipsissimus (before beginning) - The highest rank in the Order of the Star & A,',A,',. The ips. is free from all spiritual limitations
adeptus minor (gish) - small attainment or accomplishment
magister templi (siamese dream) - teacher of the temple. (a magister is a teacher, and magister is also 2 ranks below ipsissimus)
magus (pisces) - magical (1st rank below ipsissimus)
opus mago cabalisticum - loosely means "deed of a magical cabalist". (a cabalist is sort of a spiritual wiseman. OMC is also a book - http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Archive/Welling.html)
adeptus major (mellon collie) - large attainment or accomplishment
adeptus exemptus (aeroplane) - model or representation of the attainment
theoricus (adore) - meditative or contemplative
practicus (machina) - active. (may refer to adore, meaning it's what SP discovered during adore but put into action. billy has even said something like that before)
philosohpus (machina II) - ...i'm sure you can guess. (could refer to it containing the real or most of the GaTMOG story or message. not sure. maybe something else)
zohar - you pretty much summed it up already, just fit it into this context. the Zohar is where the A,',A,', got all their ranks and stuff. i couldn't figure out if it meant something else, like a rank, but i saw where this was used as a title in a few people's names.
zelator - zealous person or student. (first grade of second order of golden dawn)
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
hmmm interesting!!!!!!!
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
i think all this can only mean one thing: Billy is really an ancient Roman sent forward in time to stop the rise of Skynet by inspiring america's youth to look toward spiritualism instead of politics and war. all the signs are there people... now all we have to determine is whether or not was was originally a robot from the future sent back to ancient rome before being sent to the present. i want answers
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Corgan is into occult - i believe jimmy as well from his tattoos. This is what Billy and Marylin Manson have in common.
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
It's Alchemy Alienbob
 
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Re: Zelator? Zohar? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
billy... i hate you. why does everything have to be so confusing with him? now i'm wondering if the only reason he chose to continue SP without james is so he can finish this. and also, how far back does this go? look at the machina booklet... i thought it was just meant to look cool, i didn't think it was supposed to be taken seriously. is it?! does this explain billy's ego?! why would he have let the pumpkins disband in the first place?! will robin escape the joker's lair alive?! find out all this AND MORE, next week!
 
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