There was also a fan circulated Earphoria 2 around this time. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Are those even good live versions?
or are they something just randomly thrown together?

Jaxx wrote:
While I would absolutely LOVE to see ALL of those released (except maybe the album re-issues...don't get me wrong, I'd love bonus tracks, but then I'd have to buy them all again)

Kinda makes you hope that they might release Judas 1 or something. And yes, It's not like we were promised any of these things, he's never had the need to create material so he can be validated by fans. I would like to know what he thinks/knows about the trading communities, and if he would "leak" anything else to them. It would be nice to have a few master sourced videos from the span of their career.

RJK wrote:
Kinda makes you hope that they might release Judas 1 or something.

Judas O'Riley is the sequel to Pisces Iscariot. So Pisces is essentially Judas 1. The names of the two are significant and thought to reference Judas Iscariot.

Earphoria 2 was much later than Vieuphoria 2. The Vieuphoria 2 VHS had variable quality. Obviously the stuff from TV was better quality. If I remember correctly, the version of "Muzzle" was the Conan O'Brien performance. Well a re-cut version of it that they likely showed the next night, where the Pumpkins are deflecting laser beams with their guitars or something like that haha

The Metro DVD will probably be released when ever we get to see them come back to Chicago (ie never). When Billy announced plans for it in July 2001, he did suggest it would take a long time since it's such a massive project, but his words were suggesting maybe by Xmas 2002. Obviously that did not happen. And Vieuphoria 2 didn't happen.

But they did release a DVD in 2002 around Xmas time, the Vieuphoria re-release. So they probably think that counts as both haha.

I seem to remember Billy posting a blog on his website in 2005 saying that the Metro DVD would be released in Spring 2006. That did not happen either.

I can understand that part of it has to do with Billy's focus on Zwan and then his solo stuff, but that doesn't explain it all. It's always possible that part of it has to do with Virgin Records causing them problems or something.

Perhaps what Billy really meant about a novel was his stream of consciousness, erratically posted autobiography that was posted in blogs on his website.

Trillian wrote:
Mary Star of the Sea was such a great pop album.

Just wanted to day I totally agree with that, I read a lot of criticism about MSOTS, it seem people dont get the album for what it is at times.

Ide love see a Metro DVD but in general im not holding my breath for anything thats un released.

If you're referring top the Adore studio version of Let me give the world to you, then Billy never promised to release that. I remember him saying that he might release it or just let it live as a legend. Im guessing he went with the latter.

Wanna have the Metro DVD...I really loved the "fuck you-clip" on the Greatest Hits DVD...and the bootleg sounds as if it would have been a very emotional performance (the circumstances; of course! ).

A helping hand, a shoulder to cry on, some Euros to pay the rent...

Still waiting for those.

Murder McMurderson wrote:
A helping hand, a shoulder to cry on, some Euros to pay the rent...

Still waiting for those.
Haha yeah. Although I would settle for another charity CD endorsement

I wish the Metro DVD would come out, but I doubt it.

anybody else notice that the fuck you from the final show that is on that dvd cuts some of the beginning banter? but not just like lops off the start of it... like the banter starts... then a bit is cut then more then song... i noticed when hearing the bootleg of it...

interesting.

I didn't notice that. But having helped edit a live DVD myself, I know that sometimes you have sacrifice some of the banter to create better flow, especially if there are long pauses during the original event. But I don't recall what the case was this. But I am guessing whatever editing they did to it, it was cut down the time and space the concert would take up the Metro DVD, rather than being cut for the Greatest Hits DVD specifically if you know what I mean.

I would die if the metro dvd came out. that would be awesome.

Here's what the Chicago Songs DVD would've looked like.

PistolPete wrote:
Here's what the Chicago Songs DVD would've looked like.



That was awesome. This is what American Gothic should have sounded like.

Bobby Franks mp3

www.sendspace.com/file/rric4s

I took out the long intro...
No Introduction

www.sendspace.com/file/5mtatl

No drawn out intro

www.sendspace.com/file/wz8w4s

edit: I didn't know we already had the song here.

doomsdayclock wrote:
I would die if the metro dvd came out. that would be awesome.