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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. (1 viewing) (1) Guest
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TOPIC: Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time.
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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I think Zeitgeist will be looked on more favorably only in comparison to the records they will put out in the next nine years. And it still will not be regarded in the same league as the earlier albums.
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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you forgot french movie theme. that song is pretty Badass.
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I might like you better if we slept together
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
bonjour!  |
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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blueczarina wrote:
yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah
bonjour!
That made me smile. 
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Teej212 wrote:
really? well you and this guy have the EXACT same ideas about zeitgeist. even put in the same words! and to top it all off, you have the same avatar!!!! what a coincidence!
The resemblance is uncanny. It's almost as if it really is me.
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Dance, Billy, dance.
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Geek N.Z. wrote:
The resemblance is uncanny. It's almost as if it really is me.
your silly 
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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redmond007 wrote:
I think Zeitgeist will be looked on more favorably only in comparison to the records they will put out in the next nine years. And it still will not be regarded in the same league as the earlier albums.
that's a fair statement. but i guess only time will tell.
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"The impossible is possible tonight!"
"Love is suicide!"
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Hmmmm...I can't ever remember hearing or reading anything or thinking that Rock 101 was void of value. Actually some of the most basic music is truly amazing. Sometimes going back to basic is the farthest away from the norm as possible.
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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HeavenlyAlchemy wrote:
Sometimes going back to basic is the farthest away from the norm as possible.
Let me guess, you're a Sonic Youth fan?! 
Basic music can be amazing but Zeitgeist is that much basic and trivially that it could have been released in the 70s as medicore hard rock album.
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Corgan: "This is a song about killing your parents and taking drugs...and not necessarely in that order!"
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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how could anyone hate sonic youth |
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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HeavenlyAlchemy wrote:
Hmmmm...I can't ever remember hearing or reading anything or thinking that Rock 101 was void of value. Actually some of the most basic music is truly amazing. Sometimes going back to basic is the farthest away from the norm as possible.
true point, i hate music today. ever since the 90's music sucks.
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"The impossible is possible tonight!"
"Love is suicide!"
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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i don't like a lot of music today either. most everything has sucked post-90's.
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Zeitgeist in 9 years time? I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with the repetitive answer in this topic and say it could well be forgotten. The overall album sounds very contemporary and I too struggle to connect with the songs. It saddens me to say that Billy was trying too hard to go mainstream with it thus making it not a pure Pumpkins album (to me anyway).
Their earlier albums had a lot more effort and thought put towards them.
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It came from your thoughts, Your dreams and visions
Ripped up from your weeks, And indecisions
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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*laugh* Well let's just say I'm an enjoyer of all music. *grin*
Interesting points Don, and I'm not saying Zeitgeist is the end all be all or not...what I think is not important. My thought was on Rock 101.
My first response to Zeitgeist being dropped in the 70s was a bit tounge in cheek so I won't even imagine sharing *laugh*.
But talking about Zeitgeist I would have to say I can't exactly agree with what was said about a 70s release. And this is why...I have been thinking of all the hard rock bands from the 70s and really if Zeitgeist were dropped during this era it would have been a WT>>> is this??!!?? In the beginning there was Hendrix, Cream, The Who, Steppinwolf, Alice Cooper and the ever mighty Led Zep. Then further in the 70s Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, and Kiss came on in (OK I am leaving some out...so sue me ;P). I can see pieces of these bands in aspects of the Pumpkins music. But really. If you truly think about it do you think it would be an oh...hummm...Zeitgeist.....zzzzz? In my mind I can't. But I'd like to hear why others would think differently.
But if you are talking on pure trivially that is entirely subjective, what is trivial to one is a complete treasure to another.
DON wrote:
HeavenlyAlchemy wrote:
Sometimes going back to basic is the farthest away from the norm as possible.
Let me guess, you're a Sonic Youth fan?!
Basic music can be amazing but Zeitgeist is that much basic and trivially that it could have been released in the 70s as medicore hard rock album. |
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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One thing I started thinking about is fluctuations in writing for musicians. For me as a musician, writing comes in waves, and it will also take drastic turns once you reach the point of "Damnit, I don't want to sound that way! I've already done that before!"
What I'm getting at here is that if you look at the catalogue of music Billy created from 2000-2006 after the first incarnation of SP broke up, but before the current one, a lot of it was fantastic, emotionally heartfelt soft rock, or folksy acoustic tunes.
What I'm implying HERE is that right now, perhaps he just wants to rock! I still think he has it in him to make another tear jerker like "To Forgive", or something as epic as "Porcelina", but he might not be in that place musically right now.
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Re:Zeitgeist in another nine years time. 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Don't you mean
EasternMind wrote:
I still think he has it in him to make another tear jerker like "For Martha"
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Dance, Billy, dance.
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< oh, look- pretties. 
