i love machina,deep lyrics and impressive creativity by billy.my favorite song is the everlasting gaze,easily and the video was powerful,billy was very upsaet he could not break the lighting above at the end of the video when he threw up his fender strat but took out one billy good aim...ahh fuck

Machina is an amazing album.

So how come everyone hated it?

Track order. I swear, that album has the absolute worst track order I have ever heard. I actually set up an order right before listening that makes the album so much more enjoyable.

i actually like the track order... it's not obvious, but i like the way each song follows the others

machina/the machines of god is easily the deepest album out there and strong and lyrically done well the order is done perfect!!you can be perfect just like me...im boss hogg on candy

I loved the album. . it was pretty heavy in places, but I thought it was a good direction for the Pumpkins. Guess alot of fans couldn't stop living in the past, which is why it probably did poor commercially.

MACHINA is probably the album I most deeply got into. It's both engrossing and perplexing, and the lyrics can speak on so many levels. And the album art...wow, I just loved it. Everything seemed so beautifully complex and symbolic, like ancient religious art.
As for the meaning, however, that was pretty much a lost cause. Billy Corgan probably had a lot of crafty fun confusing us with his mysterious symbols and practically indecipherable Glass story.

When I first listened to MACHINA, I still didn't know very much about Billy Corgan personally, and to me, the album sounded like he was in the midst of an existential crisis. Particularly with the song "Age of Innocence," which gave me the impression of an atheist coming to terms with a life lacking hope and faith. You can imagine the disappointment I felt when I later listened to the happy devotional twangs of Zwan. :P

Although MACHINA contains some of my absolute favorite songs ("Everlasting Gaze", "Stand Inside Your Love", "I of the Mourning", many of its songs were also pretty challenging, and it took me a while to warm up to them. Especially "Heavy Metal Machine" and "Glass and the Ghost Children." I used to not be able to stand those songs! (I still can't stand the alt. version of "Heavy Metal Machine" on MACHINA II) But given enough attention, MACHINA/the machines of God turns out to be a powerful and affecting album. It has an epic but tragic feel to it, and no one can achieve this better than the Smashing Pumpkins.

Well said, venison. Machina does have a tragic feel, without evening trying to sound tragic. Maybe because it was their last album, and they knew it was ending.

Age of Innocence is my favorite Smashing Pumpkins song. It gives me the sense of letting go and resentfully moving on.

Age of Innocence is my fave. SP song off of Machina. I also like the Everlasting Gaze, Try Try Try, and The Imploding Voice just to name a few.
Sadly when Machina came out I was going through a really bad time in my life and I rarely listen to it because it brings back some pretty strong memories.

MACHINA is my favorite pumpkins album. It doesn't have my favorite song on it, but it to me, M/MOG has the most good songs packed onto it.

try,try,try was a song with good feel to it,and the video was reality as painful as it is to us but billy did a bang up job a+