sour patches

If James and D'arcy want money so bad, why won't they swallow their pride and jump on Billy's Money train again?

This is a legitimate complaint and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Billy. For all we know Virgin fucked up the deal and screwed them over.

Aren't they a little late?

things aren't going so well for Virgin Records latley are they. Pumpkins don't like 'em

this makes me sad

I miss James and D'arcy. They were the true band members and deserve just as much credit as Billy, if not more. Such a talented group of individuals. Wish things could somehow mend .. even now.

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Brad,

Though I agree that James and D'arcy were vital to the band, and were essentially there from the beggining, I can't see how they would deserve more credit than Billy. He is admitadly the driving force behind the band. James and D'arcy definitly helped out, especially in the late 90's, but I can't see the point of them getting "more" credit over Billy.

I do agree it would be great to see things get patched up. Here's crossing my fingers, but not holding my breath.

JAMES IS JUST MAD BECAUSE HIS SOLO ALBUM TANKED WORSE THAN BILLYS DID. AND D'ARCYS ACTING CAREER NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND.

Geeez this is starting to sound like a soap opera plot, what's next a love triangle of some kind?? In all seriousness though, James and D'arcy deserve their cut of the loot for SP material from their era (even though they had little to do with the actual writing & recording of most of that material...)

James and D'arcy do not deserve MORE credit than Billy or Jimmy, as it is known they did not contribute much to the writing & recording process... at least no where near as much as Billy and Jimmy did. But they did play a role in the identity of the Pumpkins' stage presence,.. the band's personality was greatly influenced by them. I don't think they deserve any more or less credit at this point...

And I strongly disagree that the Pumpkins' are Billy's "money train", yes it brings in money, but the Pumpkins exist primarily for artistic reasons, not monetary ones.